(15:35:29) Conversation with #gtk+ at 2008-06-06 153529 on pbor (15:35:29) You joined #gtk+ (15:35:29) topic on #gtk+ is: Please do not feed the trolls in gtk-devel-list | http://www.flickr.com/photos/arclnx/2335638271/ (15:35:29) topic on #gtk+ set by bratsche at time Fri Jun 6 10:09:56 2008 (15:42:39) When would G_OBJECT_CLASS_NAME say "void"? (15:43:05) And when would it say NULL? (15:43:48) It's saying void for me with a NULL object. (15:44:28) No, actually it's segfaulting for a NULL object. (15:47:02) timj is now known as tjafk (15:52:24) harlan (~harlan@g228067031.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined #gtk+ (15:53:29) fargiolas is now known as fargiolas|afk (15:59:00) jkroon quit (Ping timeout: 600 seconds) (16:00:16) oleavr quit () (16:00:41) fargiolas|afk is now known as fargiolas (16:02:42) jones: The gobject api expects valid objects, with the exception of FOO_IS_BAR (16:03:17) So usually trying to use it with something that is not a gobject segfaults (16:03:47) nicu quit (Verlassend) (16:04:16) tanty (~agomez@cm231144.red.mundo-r.com) joined #gtk+ (16:04:17) tanty quit (Ciao.) (16:06:09) andrunko (~andrunko@200.184.118.132) joined #gtk+ (16:06:21) KaL (~KaL@cm23058.red.mundo-r.com) joined #gtk+ (16:06:35) KaL is now known as KaL_out (16:08:21) shashish quit (Leaving) (16:08:56) kTo be clear, FOO_IS_BAR() accepts a valid gobject or null. Trying to use it with anything else usually segfaults as well (16:09:22) mclasen quit (Remote closed the connection) (16:09:50) nicu (~nicolas@office.adfinis.com) joined #gtk+ (16:11:31) neil_d quit (Leaving) (16:12:33) sven|away quit (Remote closed the connection) (16:19:06) lessthenjake (~lessthanj@dhcp-029028.wlan.ntnu.no) joined #gtk+ (16:19:38) owen quit (Ping timeout: 600 seconds) (16:22:57) matrixise quit (Ex-Chat) (16:26:01) MacSlow quit (Remote closed the connection) (16:27:14) Enselic-AFK quit (Ping timeout: 600 seconds) (16:28:43) gianmt quit (Leaving) (16:30:30) kris: I'd be definitely interested in your irods doc! (16:32:02) jkroon (~jkroon@c83-254-41-184.bredband.comhem.se) joined #gtk+ (16:33:24) gianmt (~gianmt@adsl-ull-218-189.47-151.net24.it) joined #gtk+ (16:34:18) bkor_ quit (leaving) (16:35:26) kmaraas (~kmaraas@30.80-202-165.nextgentel.com) joined #gtk+ (16:42:40) lessthenjake quit (Leaving) (16:45:03) kov (~kov@201.80.63.222) joined #gtk+ (16:46:15) mclasen (~mclasen@c-24-218-44-243.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined #gtk+ (16:46:35) Sup3rkiddo (~sudharsh@59.92.97.163) joined #gtk+ (16:53:23) muntyan (~muntyan@pool-71-113-225-242.herntx.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined #gtk+ (16:55:03) jg (~jg@dhcp-47-95.media.mit.edu) joined #gtk+ (16:56:35) andre quit (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) (16:58:55) cesar (~cesar@cpe-76-87-87-24.socal.res.rr.com) joined #gtk+ (16:59:34) squentin (~squentin@bsb94-1-82-232-16-14.fbx.proxad.net) joined #gtk+ (17:05:29) andre (~andre@f053153191.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined #gtk+ (17:08:42) emmanuel_lap quit (Ping timeout: 600 seconds) (17:09:01) owen (~otaylor@66.187.234.200) joined #gtk+ (17:23:02) mhwork|gone is now known as mhutch (17:24:27) MacSlow (~mirco@dslb-088-076-040-110.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined #gtk+ (17:26:30) voltron (~voltron@59.sub-75-215-13.myvzw.com) joined #gtk+ (17:28:50) fargiolas quit (Coyote finally caught me) (17:29:26) jdahlin: I know it's friday afternoon, but any chance to get that builder patch in? (17:29:44) if I find the time I'd like to try to port gedit over the weekend (17:32:00) fargiolas|afk (pippo@host50-152-dynamic.104-80-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined #gtk+ (17:32:20) what do you want to port it to, wine? (17:33:04) kalikiana: gtkbuilder, but I'd like to do so with a patch that allows me to do things in a certain way (17:33:06) pbor: I think it needs more work (17:33:29) and I'd like to get someone else's, eg mclasen opinion (17:33:52) jdahlin: I am fine with more work, what I'd like to know is "no way" or "fix this an that" :) (17:34:01) pbor: Ah, the root discussion. GtkBuilder certainly is still young :) (17:34:34) fargiolas|afk is now known as fargiolas (17:34:49) jdahlin: which patch are we discussing ? (17:34:49) pbor: I'm not sure yet, I'm divided, there are both advantages and disadvantages (17:35:09) MacSlow quit (Remote closed the connection) (17:35:24) mclasen: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/attachment.cgi?id=111944 (17:35:35) sorry, this link is better http://bugzilla.gnome.org/attachment.cgi?id=111944&action=edit (17:35:40) Bug 447998 (17:35:41) Bug http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=447998 enhancement, Normal, ---, gtk-gtkbuilder-maint@gnome.bugs, NEW, GtkBuilder does not support building parts of the xml tree (17:37:00) mclasen: in the dupe http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=535971 I make my point why I think it's a necessary api add (17:37:02) Bug 535971: normal, Normal, ---, gtk-gtkbuilder-maint@gnome.bugs, RESOLVED DUPLICATE, Bring back ability to specify a "root" object